List of all the dead popes. 54 So when the centurion and those with him, who were guarding Jesus, saw the earth-quake and the things that had happened, they feared greatly, saying, “Truly this was the Son of God!”, “Catholic worship of corpses, skulls and bones has its origin in the crypt in St. Peters Basilica in the Vatican.” After resurrection of Jesus, the Christian Church suffered greatly from persecution. Was it not kings, cesears, etc. With all due respect, If you feel that this is a “pitch-fork parade”, you are not obligated to post anything. OMG!!! Receive Jesus as Savior confessing your sins to Him only. To have something that Paul personally touched, or even a fragment of Paul’s body, is and always was seen as a way of connecting to Paul in an Incarnational sense, and so connecting to Jesus Himself through Paul (or some other holy saint). But not all the Popes are buried and kept for display inside the Vatican. This dead Pope is put for display on the wall of a Church in Italy. This is bizarre and unhealthy. Think yourself as a ” good soul” and “Blessed with the life of human beings ” and not believe yourself as ” sinner” . Its an interesting topic. The Jews were responsible to obey the Word of God preserved in the Holy Scriptures, and nothing else. Thus, the saints and martyrs are not dead, but alive and with us, since they are with and in Christ, and Christ promised to be with us always. 51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split; 6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. ye shall know them by their fruits. Therefore the churches, although they are so many and so great, comprise but the one primitive Church, [founded] by the apostles, from which they all [spring]. i was deepley disturbed by the fact that the catholic church are ceeping dead bodies of popes in the vatican! NO txlady706, Catholicism is NOTHING like the Torah, but please continue to pray for them to come to the knowledge of the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, as well as Yeshua Hamashiach? I am in disbelief. ‘Sola Scriptura’ is not whether the Bible is the infallible Word of God or not (we all agree that it is). Why am I not surprised by this?? Ga 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Wow there is so much animosity between Catholics and Protestants here?? Suppose there arise a dispute relative to some important question among us, should we not have recourse to the most ancient churches with which the apostles held constant conversation, and learn from them what is certain and clear in regard to the present question?” (ibid., 3:4:1). It is not a pagan custom, but a custom rooted very firmly in Biblical truth. You shall not make for yourself an idol, There is no better time to respond to the concerns raised in this article. Image Credits: Infowars .com. There is no Scriptural proof for this false doctrine in either Testament. Catholics differ in their beliefs also. And I am surprised to hear you say that there is no proof in scripture that Peter was even in Rome. how can he wash your sins by his blood? The Christian will not permit any man or creature to usurp the throne of his Lord. I would suggest CatholicAnswers.org for some answers to many of your questions. There is more to Catholicism than what meets the eye and what you have been told. This is a link to read the whole article: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07664a.htm. G_d’s Word is our shield. But to claim that: Since Paul handkerchiefs was used to heal someone, the bones and skulls of late Popes will do the same. That includes many items used during a Catholic mass. This is about the point where some Roman Catholics become angry with me but that is a historical fact. List of all the deceased popes on display in the Basilica of St. Peter in the Vatican. Therefore he saith, ‘Thou art Peter and upon this rock’ which thou hast confessed, upon this rock which thou hast acknowledged, saying, ‘Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God’ will I build my Church’ that is upon Myself, the Son of the living God, ‘will I build My Church.’ I will build thee upon me, not myself upon thee . The writer is certainly lazy to read and research deeper beyond common speculations. Thus, many of the arguments between a Protestant and a Catholic will revolve around one’s “private interpretation” of Scripture as against the “official teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.” Catholics claim to successfully avoid the legitimate problems of private interpretation by their reliance on their tradition. The Bible reveals an infinite God who is perfect in holiness, love, wisdom and in all His attributes. Read your Bible, share the good news and keep worship simple. The Pope looks like a certifiable lunatic yet billions look up to him as some kind of demigod. You said: Becouse i do not believe jesus, i am condemned to hell and burned in fire. I am Christian but not Roman Catholic. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; Does ayone know of another person who has made this claim besides the pope? Jesus said: “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” – John 8:32 (KJV). Holy Shroud of Turin . How the pope put ‘truth on display’ in an empty St. Peter’s Square. The RCC is slipping off into more and more paganism/universalism (and they were never very orthodox to begin with). left dead sun-scorched planet, riddick finds alien. The disgusting disgrace of a Pope that you see before you here in this article wants to repatriate a holocaust denier bishop into the fold and was himself a former indoctrinated member of the Nazi Youth. Tomb of Blessed Pope Gregory X, at the Cattedrale di San Donato, Arezzo: The Incorrupt Relics of St. Athanasios the Great, in the Church of S. Zaccaria, in Venice, Italy. It’s a tangible link to that person. Where does it say in Scripture that Christ founded any such system as a church? Why has he not ever said that? In each succession and in each city there is a continuance of that which is proclaimed by the law, the prophets, and the Lord” (Memoirs, cited in Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History 4:22 [A.D. 180]). Venerating relics as gods and making those objects “holy.” They bow down and kiss them like Aaron bowed down to the golden calf. Christ chose certain special men: “You have not chosen Me; but I have chosen you.” (John 15:16). New International Version (NIV) Some stranger’s pocketwatch is just a timepiece, but one given to you by your grandfather is something you’d literally mourn losing. He overcame death and He is now alive forevermore. God’s Truth as revealed through various means This history is carried in the undisputed history of the church by secular writers. You saw no form of any kind the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire. Disgusting. This commission included His teaching authority: “Teach all nations…whatsoever I have commanded you.” (Matthew 28:12-20). CBS News correspondent Allen Pizzey reports. Much more so than was the (now destroyed) Jerusalem Temple. On the contrary, He rebuked the Jews for adding traditions which in effect undermined the plain teaching of the Scriptures: ‘Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition’ (please read Mark 7). The remains of Mary Magdalene are found in the Basilica of Saint Maximin, south of France. Strange world…. SO in that sense the Protestant reformation was returning mor to old testament ideas. In the New Testament cases, physical things (the cloak, the shadow, handkerchiefs and aprons) were used to effect cures. Only God in human flesh could provide the once-for-all-time infinite sacrifice as the Lamb of God. Especially about the Papacy and Peter as the first!!! i would believe this logical and reality rather than believing on faith based false religion with many fallacies and illogical concept of faulty doctrine, not in reality to the practical life. The church is flawed because the men who run it are flawed, just as we all are flawed. Protestant principles demand that the Catholic Church is wrong in any of its claims. So, I DON’T understand. There, though not mistreated, he died of an infection from an absess on May 19, 1296. It is not enough to say that “Catholics believe in Jesus Christ” since there are true and false kinds of belief. Matthew 16:18: “Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My Church.” Christ terms His Church a kingdom, which in turn supposes some organized authority. During His earthly ministry, the Lord Jesus did not expect the Jews to believe some extra-scriptural doctrine which was supposedly transmitted from the prophets of old by word of mouth. If you think coming out of the Catholic Church like you did is ‘full knowledge of the Gospel’ then you may find my spirituality at war with such a ‘blessing’. This is like disturbing the body, which is prohibited. A woman who is barren can have many children, because she can adopt and do other things and so can men. But the RCC says there is more than one incarnation because they say His body, blood, soul and divinity is in the Eucharist. Your Comment: thanks for not just joining in the torch and pitch-fork parade here and for asking honest questions. . You know that there are liberal Catholics and traditional Catholics, Eastern and Western, Sedevacantist, etc. hi. No. A lovely dish is just a lovely dish, but one owned by your great-grandmother is a treasure. 21 Once while some Israelites were burying a man, suddenly they saw a band of raiders; so they threw the man’s body into Elisha’s tomb. The Muslims. Pope Benedict XVI blesses the faithful in front of the remains of Pope Celestine V at the end of a mass in Sulmona, Italy, Sunday, July 4, 2010. The fact that they call themselves “Christians”, then the Pope says, “Call me father” , against what the gospel of Matthew says. Gods will is to live with him in our hearts. You may respond, ‘Yes, the Christian should be obedient to the Bible. but you won’t read it because God has allowed you to be blinded by the doctrines of demons for your hatred of the truth. The Roman Emperor decided to make a state religion. But why insist on the Bible ALONE as his ultimate authority?’. I think it is elemental for one to have an individual relationship with God, and that all the heirarchy and that the ancient customs may not be the point of the exercise. You did the right thing. Matthew 1:23 – “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”. The truth is that both Roman Catholics and Protestants must, in the end, rely upon their reasoning abilities (to choose their authority) and their interpretive skills (to understand what that authority teaches) in order to determine what they will believe. What we know, is that the Church can account for the remains of most of the saints of the early Church. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE ROMANS ARE TH By listen to their false priests, they all make them selves worthless in the eye of God of the Bible. “When I had come to Rome, I [visited] Anicetus, whose deacon was Eleutherus. 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. But this merely pushes the question back a step. Maria di Colemaggio in 1317. and whose heart turns away from the Lord. For the most part, today at least, most of the animosity comes from basic human nature when dealing with fundamental disagreement over eternal truths. Jesus is not God. They should study the Word carefully for they are liable to make mistakes (2 Timothy 2:15). When Jesus died, he too was placed in a tomb and according to the gospel narratives, we know that this tomb was accessible. Which is why Rome houses the tombs of Peter and Paul. Churches were then built in memory of these saints and their remains would be given a resting place in these Churches. read “The Two Babylons” by Rev. This means He is seated at the right hand of the Father in the flesh and also on earth in millions of hosts on earth. I follow God himself not man. They equally called Jesus names and accuss him of working with devil, that’s y I give deaf ears to what ever people are sayin about catholics because nobody made u a judge over catholics or maybe you are God who Judges,Jesus said don’t Judge so that u won’t be subjected to be judged. Mary played and instrumental part in the life of Jesus her Son, from the time of His Birth until His Death. All Rights Reserved © Novinite JSC., 2001-2021. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you, and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age. The pope met his end in that prison a short time later when he was strangled to death. If not you will have plenty of time to regret in hell. Nor did he assert: “Advice everyone to read the Bible”. We too keep some priests Saints body’s for viewing and we venerate the rerlics, NOT worship therm! In line with the same tradition Rome houses several saints. 2 He was twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem twenty-nine years. Anyone who truely believes that…..is calling Christ a liar because he said He would be with His Church until the end of time (Matthew 28:20), and He also promised “The gates of hell shall not prevail against it” (Matthew 16:18). And there is no such thing in the Bible as “Apostolic Succession.”. Kept for adoration and worship.” Only Jesus deserves our adoration and worship. Thus, when the Church worships on earth, the Church that is in Heaven worships with it. jesus story is a great imagination of some foolish person. In ancient Egypt, the remains where mummified, that is dried to ensure that the remains do not quickly decompose and were placed in tombs easily accessible by upcoming generations. Do you agree with ANY of this? perhaps not….but they didn’t die today. Mass- our priest said that death know no age, but it does know time and place. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. From Simon Peter to John Paul II, about 100 papal tombs can be seen today in the Vatican Grottoes. where the soul rest during this time till body resurrection takes place when jesus comes on the judgement day. Please research this. Relics are an extension of the fact that the Church truly is the Body of Christ. I have respect for anyone who believes, even if their beliefs are not the same as mine. Isaiah 43:10,11 – “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. The divine Scripture likewise saith that the souls of the just are in God’s hand and death cannot lay hold of them. You can quote scripture till your blue in the face and and all they do is repeat the same scripture out of context of the whole Bible. Protestants are simply more willing to admit that this is the case. My being Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, etc. Christians should ‘should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints’ (Jude 3). Men are wicked, and compare a Church with another. I think judge not lest you be judged would apply to much of this room’s conversation. I thank God that the Catholic Church continues to uphold the great truths on the Deity and incarnation, death and bodily resurrection of Christ, as expressed in the ancient creeds from the 3-4th century still used today! Do you know why the farmer put bells around the steers neck ? The bones of Eliseus would constitute a first class relic, the cloths of St. Paul, second class relics–granted, however, that St. Paul was alive at the time. I now have eyes to see. The most recent interment was Pope John Paul II, on April 8, 2005. Beyond that, we can agree to disagree and worship where we find ourselves most in agreement. It is not written that they took the handkerchiefs of Paul with them home, bowed down to them and kissed them. They have nothing to do with paganism or witch doctors, but are a sign that our Christian Faith is more than a mere spiritual faith. 1John 1:4 And we are writing these things so that our joy may be complete. Always follow God’s Word. Novinite.com (Sofia News Agency - www.sofianewsagency.com) is unique with being a real time news provider in English that informs its readers about the latest Bulgarian news. Augustine was one of them. Ps 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Here is a scriptural definition of religion. Do a little more studying about the Catholic religion, and you will find out more of what they believe. It might help you to read a history of Christianity. I was stationed on USS Sanctuary AH 17 Hospital Ship- Vietnam 1967. The core baptists set of belief’s, is the message of Jesus: Repent (make a U-turn) or perish. Exodus 20:1-5 The Church at Rome came awhile later. A lie that has been told 100 million times, is still a lie. A total of 91 popes are buried in crypts in the grotto in St. Peters Basilica in Rome. Coronavirus: What Has Happened to Us, People. A statue of St. Peter in St. Peter’s Square at the Vatican. This is odd. The Church just says that relics may be the occasion of God’s miracles, and in this the Church follows Scripture. These are called tombs. But, if the Lord Jesus tarries much longer, it will become thoroughly unrecognizable as a “church” except for the name. In terms of moral laws, no one can keep the laws of the Catholic Church and not be a better person for it. Tell them you want to put it in one of the corners or alcoves so people an visit and share the message. Do Jewish people do this, no , these were Christians. you don’t pray to the Dead. God can use whatever He wants, and whoever He wants all the time. Since you were pleased to acquaint us with the letter sent to you by a Donatist presbyter, although, with the spirit of a true Catholic, you regarded it with contempt, nevertheless, to aid you in seeking his welfare if his folly be not incurable, we beg you to forward to him the following reply. 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Pastors (also know as bishops and elders) are God’s gift to His church. In yet another surreal sight to emerge from the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic, Pope Francis on Friday delivered a blessing from a strikingly deserted St. Peter's Square. I bet if Jesus himself got in the discussion they would bash his mother right in front of him and tell Him that He isn’t SAVED.. May you all have a blessed day, I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. In my Shona culture, according to oral tradition, we know that Kings were buried in caves and these caves were accessible, only blocked by a big rock. Because of this it is difficult to communicate clearly when using this term. A Jew would NEVER do this. To answer, let me ask some questions myself. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. 27:60). “[T]he Church is one, and as she is one, cannot be both within and without. Truth in ISOLATION is HERESY and they are masters at it. A.D. 676 – 754/87, in his “Exposition of the Orthodox Faith”: These [the bodies of the Saints] are made treasuries and pure habitations of God: For I will dwell in them, said God, and walk in them, and I will be their God. Italy, 19th century. Hello Karen. The editorial staff also publishes a daily online newspaper "Sofia Morning News." You said: Why can’t you accept that Catholics believe in Jesus Christ as our Saviour just like Baptists and other Christians? No one sincerely joins the Catholic Church without desiring a loftier standard of living, and no one leaves the Catholic Church except for a lower standard. This ”bible” thing, well who wrote it? But not all the Popes are buried and kept for display inside the Vatican. This example from the Jewish Tannakh (Old Testament) can forever stand as a rebuke from God, that the Jews should have listen to Elisha, while he was alive. His remains were transferred to Sta. 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